Surely the words "xbox one" have no place on a moneysaving forum

A question about : Surely the words "xbox one" have no place on a moneysaving forum

I am not just referring to the rrp of the console

If I was going to make the move to a new console I would then need to buy all new controllers and headsets as well as keeping my gold subscription up to date and no longer being able to buy second hand games at a reduced price.

Thankfully Microsoft have a suggestion for us..... If we are not happy then we should just stick with the 360

Best answers:

• Hi miniemma
  It's a good point, consoles aren't cheap.
  But MSE's about cutting costs without cutting back, on the things you want. So if you do the Budget Planner, and use our Money Mantras first and are happy you can personally afford it, then you use the Megashopbot to get it for the best price, and maybe even get it through a cashback website then all's good
• miniemma must have a short memory. XB One will be Ј429 I think at launch. How much was the XBox360, XBOX, PS3, PS2 at launch? Launch time has to be the most expensive time to buy a console, even if they may be sold at a loss right at the start!
  I've a massive list of games to get out of the way on the 'old' consoles, so my moneysaving tip is to wait until you've got the best out of your current equipment...
• Phones aren't exactly futureproof either. From what I understand the Xbox One is supposed to be much more than just a games console and will have as long or longer a shelf life as most smartphones (most people change phones every 2 years or so). As for the second hand games, I am not sure about that as I don't tend to buy second hand games. I do buy old games though which tend to be pretty cheap for PC, particularly on Steam offers where you can get some old classics for a pound or whatever. should imagine a similar thing for Xbox
• I like having physical copies of games because technology can still fail, but i don't like feeling forced into buying download copies and not actually owning a game, just leasing it.
• I think the real answer to pretty much any question regarding next gen is to spend the money on a relatively good gaming PC (which can be pretty cheap if you don't need to play every new release on the highest quality graphics), which also has the advantage of being able to be used for work related things as well as movies and social media stuff. Also, enjoying the indie stuff on Steam and Good old Games on the cheap as well as newer releases. (origins can f*** right off)
  That said, Microsoft really have shot themselves in the foot - even if, in terms of cost and DRM, the PS4 and Xbox One end up being the same (PS4 are working with activision, who might end up throwing their toys out of the pram with the PS4 if they don't get the same DRM they do with the Xbox One, plus, as mentioned above, if the PS4 isn't backwards compatible, buying controllers and so on might end up at the same amount), the PS4 has gone out of its way to show that they're actually producing a games console, for playing games on, and has shown some interest in not trying to be as consumer unfriendly as Microsoft. I mean, a console is a luxury product, it's not like a basic computer/laptop, which is arguably essential to be able to interact with modern society. You make a luxury product seem good by making it something desirable, and something that makes the buyer feel important/as if a need is being met. You don't do that by treating the buyer of your luxury product as if they're a criminal and a thief. The Xbox One (can we just call it Xbone? Everyone else is!) both from a money-saving and consumer point of view really can just go hang, until they can sort themselves out, and work out if they're making a product for games publishers and people who want to facebook, or making a product for people who want to buy and play games and then just go make that product.
• The PC isn't really any better in the DRM regard though and while there is the cost of buying accessories and similar for a new console, it's likely to last far, far longer than a gaming PC ever will (assuming wanting to play at a decent level) when you look at the PS3/Xbox 360.
  It's not anything against the PC as it's my platform of choice but value for money doesn't really come into it as the consoles are cheaper (and they're going to get cheaper) while a decent gaming PC can be pricey and won't last that long until needing upgrades which themselves aren't cheap either.
  John
• I will admit being pro- PC gaming because one can pick up cheap but innovative games very easily, you can play a lot of old games on them, as long as you're vaguely computer literate and know how to use google, and once the Triple A's make it into PC, they're a touch cheaper, but then again, I don't tend to play games on their top-settings, and am cool with buying upgrades every so often (I also use my PC for pretty much everything else I do as a hobby, so it makes sense for me to combine as many things as I can into one purchase!)
  As for DRM on PC - yes, we all know what happened with Sim City. But the Humble Indie Bundle is intentionally DRM-less, and even if it's harder to buy second hand games for PC (Which I will admit, is a problem), the prices for new/first time purchase games often make up for it.
• good lost above, I have considered a PC setup a few times in the past, each time the cost or know how has stopped me buying,(also using a keyboard/mouse to play is not for me I have come to realise) either you buy off the shelf and get ripped off, or you put your own setup together, the latter is a no go for me as I just do not have the knowledge.
  A PC setup is also competing against a xbox/playstation being played on a TV screen, which in many cases is 2-3 times the size of the average PC screen.
  I love the thought of having the best graphics a game can have but there are just to many problems to overcome with PC gaming.
• All the next gen consoles will drop in price when the first Christmas rush after release is over. I won't be buying the Xbox One for various reasons (I own all the last two generations' worth of consoles) - mainly a combination of privacy concerns (I'm sorry - it may be tin foil hat-esque but I really don't like the always-on/internet needed every 24 hours Kinect thing - it's too much like the 1984 viewscreens for me to be comfortable) and the preowned game thing. Most of the stuff I play has long-since gone cross platform anyway so I'll go for the PS4 versions of things.
  The new accessories and whatever doesn't bother me - it's to be expected with a step up in generations really - as is the ridiculously painful initial price. I just found the PS3 to be a better bit of hardware in terms of the games I played and its functionality than our 360 (in terms of reliability - both have broken and needed warranty repairs but Sony was much more efficient and helpful) and so I'll probably follow that through into next-gen when we have the spare cash to step up.
  I still play some stuff on PC - things like Civilisation just work better with a mouse and keyboard shortcuts, and my MMORPG of choice, despite having a console version and controller options I've just played for so long with keyboard controls that I can't play any other way. PC was bought moderate to decently specced about 4 years ago now - can still play 95% of stuff I'd want to throw at it - was beta testing something new last weekend and it was running that fine as well.