Being a Kleeneze Distributor

A question about : Being a Kleeneze Distributor

A close family friend (who is a Kleeneze distributor), has suggested that my wife does it (I haven't the time - I have two jobs as it is)

We trust our friend, and we know he wouldn't suggest it to us if he didn't think we would benefit. He has shown us the promotional video, and it sounds good

However, the majority of the video centres on the massive earnings their top earners make. The only snippets of info I could glean from it is:

1)You have to work hard to earn the big money
2)You can boost your earnings by getting people to work for you (not quite sure how that works)

What I would appreciate would be some impartial feedback from you good people. Has anyone here got any horror stories? Or for that matter, is it a good company to distribute for? (I know their products are quite good)

What sort of questions should we be asking our friend before we consider spending the Ј75 for the starter pack?

What future expences can we expect? Are we expected to order the goods before receiving payment from the customer? Or do we wait for the cheque to clear before ordering?

Is there anything else we should bear in mind?

Best answers:

• I believe that you can do the same for Betterware without the start up cost.
  I also think that one of the companies gives you your own area, whereas with the other you choose where to work, and anyone else could set up on your patch too. Not sure which is which though!!
• My advice stay well clear its not worth the Ј75 or whatever it is now to join you have to trample the streets distributing catalogues which you have to pay for , you end up losing catalogues over time ,and then buying more if you distribute say 100 catalogues expect to receive at best 10 orders if your lucky . I know i used to do it and the continual delivery of catalogues to get orders just isnt worth it for the low rewards . and yes the other person will benefit as they get a percentage of your sales volume . this is a classic MLM/Pyramid scheme . \sorry to sound very negative on this matter but i still know some of the distributors in this company and they really do not make the money the claims make out . Take the advice of the other poster and try betteware at least you dont have to pay them to start up , and furthermore your joining kleenezee will be subject to a credit check . if you dont qualify you will not get your initial fee back . As with all these schemes unless your in at the start your never gonna retire with this one
• I did a betterware round for 6 months.It is very similar to Kleeneze but doesnt cost anything to start up.It is hard work. You must deliver catalogues one day then go back for them about 3 times to get them all back(you never get all of them back).Then deliver any goods ordered(it may take 3 trips to catch everyone in).So it can end up taking 7 trips per road each time you do that area.I had to fit mine in around my hubby's shifts so he could have the littleuns while I did it and found I was having to spend longer and longer each time.I had 2 rounds going at once as it is quite a rough area so nobody wanted it.
  Kleeneze do not tell you if there is a round already in your area and you may find yourself doing the same roads as someone else.Betterware wont let you do the same round as another agent but it is harder to find a free round.
• I did betterware and in the end it worked out I was working for about Ј1.50 an hour.
  As has been said with Kleeneze the only way to make money is to have other people under you.
  I have been told if you take the time to build up a round then you can make money. I have heard stories of people making Ј1500 a month with betterware. but it took them years to build that up.
  If you want the exercise and are not worried about making any money I would say go for it. But you will never makes loads of money from it. And if you do you will be looking at a few years ahead if you are lucky.
  Yours
  Calley
• Ј24.95 for a booklet on the top 50 business, to the OP don't even go there!
• I work for an accountant and we've had a few people on our books who have tried Kleeneze.
  The only ones who seem to make the money are the original people who set up the business. Lots of money is made from you by getting you to go to meetings/conferances,buy promotional items etc.
  Ive no experiance of Betterware so cant comment. One of our clients was a regional distributer and he still didnt do very well. Every one who has tried this on our books has given up.
  One way to get round this is to become a distributer for a number of these types of companies then you can deliver a different catalogue when you are taking out items you have sold (not sure how your customers will react )
  Whoever said it is a pyramid set up is right - all these types of things are - Betterware,Amway etc
  The bottom line is if you have lots of time and like exercise give it a go, but dont expect to get rich quick, or even at all.
• Avoid it like the plague! It seems to me (from past experience) that people who you would consider real friends and would trust, have no scruples in trying to rope in EVERYONE/ANYONE to boost their own earnings. As said in one of the previous postings the only people to make 'real' money are the ones who are in at the very beginning.
• I am a distributor for Betterware and it is not a pyramid scheme. I don't have to sign anyone up to increase my earnings. It is set up quite differently from Kleeneze. As ppl have already said, there is no cash outlay for Betterware and you don't have to pay for your books (as you do for Avon). Your co-ordinator pays for them.
  It isn't easy money, but it isn't exactly mentally challenging either. You deliver the books, go round (I go twice now, 3 times was a pain) to collect them. The orders get delivered to your home and you deliver them to the customers collecting the cash. There is a credit check if you start Betterware too, because you are dealing with Ј00's. Some unscrupulous ppl have stolen the money from their co-ordinators
  You receive 20% commission on your sales - the amount you get is dependent on how many houses you deliver to and whether you get a good area - I am fortunate to have a good area (as said before, it is my area only) and can get Ј40 a week by delivering books to 80-90 houses. I haven't worked out the hourly rate as it could be a bit depressing, but it is a useful source of cash and is very flexible when you have 2 small children.
• I did Kleeneze when Ds1 was a baby. A friend and I each signed up - we had both tried other MLM companies - Neways and Lifestyles and whilst these products were good, the outlay was horrendous. So, we both paid out about Ј125 (if memory serves) and then tried to find our own areas.
  I did it for 3-4 weeks - that's how long it took me to recoup at least most of my initial outlay. In that time, I lost a huge percentage of my catalogues and it was really hard work. Also, have a lot of room to receive and bag up your orders, and store them if people aren't in. After that, I called it quits.
  My friend did it for about 6 months - she found a 'rich' area where people wanted to buy the overpriced luxury goods, but even then she found it hard work for very little reward.
  Make your own mind up, of course. It wasn't for me with a young child and a husband who worked long hours. The hourly rate must have been pence in the end! However, the Kleeneze man who delivers to me has been doing it ages now, so it obviously suits hem. If you can stick at it, you will end up with regular customers so you won't necessarily have to deliver catalogues blindly.
  We have friends who have broached the subject of another MLM company to us (health again) - thanks, but no thanks.
• Have never done these - but have done both Ann Summers and Body Shop - the difference with these is to get in parties rather than taking catalogues around. (Which is more difficult than it sounds!)
  Having spoken to another Ann Summers rep who had done Kleeneze, she stopped doing Kleeneze to do Ann Summers and was amazed that she was making more money! Which I found surprising, as she was the slowest seller in the team! I made little money, she was making peanuts from her sales and that was more than Kleeneze??????
  I stopped altogther when someone tried to get into my car on my way home one night (luckily I ALWAYS lock the doors), then was so upset I got lost. So walking the streets (as opposed to driving) sounds worse to me.
  Anyway - my personal opinion - I would never do these things or anything like them again.
  I'm sure she would get more money working parttime in the local newsagents or as a school dinner lady perhaps??
• I did Kleeneze several years ago. it is a genuine firm but the upfront charge is high for a few catalogues and stationery, you have to build up your own round and you can get there to find another Kleeneze person has beaten you to it! The only way to make money with them is to get a huge 'downline' of distributors. I think the remuneration is 'front-end loaded', i.e. it rewards for enrolling rather than keeping recruits. I was in the line of a guy in Bristol: there were no support structures, you were just left to sink or swim. I secured some good orders and repeat business on occasion but it was backbreaking work and it's true you lose lots of catalogues and envelopes, which cost you money.
  ** Board Guide note: I've amended your post as this is not the place to advertise your business or try and recruit. Thanks **
• I have some "inside" knowledge of Kleeneze. The remuneration isn't front-end loaded as suggested by adrienne - it's all based on sales. So there's no benefit in getting agents who quit after a few weeks or months - the incentive for the distributors is to get people who will work hard and gain sales themselves, and ALSO go on to recruit more people themselves.
  Some of the distributors genuinely make Ј100,000s a year, but that isn't all profit by a long chalk - if they are doing that level of business, they are spending a lot of their own money on recruitment, admin and the like.
  The main problem with Kleeneze is the lack of unique sales areas - any distributor can recruit people in any area and tread on others' toes. That means that there isn't much security in it for any particular individual agent, as another one might come and hoover up their customers without them realising until they get a complete dearth of sales from their catalogues when they happen to distribute them a week after the new person.
• hi
  I find it rather interesting when people say Kleeneze doesnt work
  It does work - if you work it . We earn nearly 80k per year with Kleeneze and have dozens and dozens and dozens of team members earning way over 2k per month
  hundreds in our team alone earn between Ј200 - Ј500 per month
  Kleeneze opportunity pays a residual income , betterware doesnt
  Kleeneze has other income streams as well as the catalogues betterware doesnt
  Kleeneze take hundreds abroad every year for a reward for doing well , better doesnt
  Kleeneze reward your achievements all the way - betterware doesnt
  Kleeneze encourages personal growth , betterware doesnt
  Kleeneze give away Mini Coopers/Bmws etc , betterware doesnt
  I really could go on and on , I suggest you do a search on the internet about Kleeneze and betterware and see what is said about each and which gets the most positive press
  The reason why its free to join betterware and have a co-ordinator on your back all the while is ........................... well what more could be said
• Personally I wouldnt bother with either Kleeneze or Betterware, whenever the catalogue comes through the door it goes straight outside by the front door step ready for collection. I've even put notes in saying "dont bring anymore" but doesnt seem to sink in. Sometimes they're not even collected when it says they will be so they go in the bin.
  To me this is just another form of junk mail.
• Dont you ever read them.You just dont know you might pick up a bargain.