TV reception and the law

A question about : TV reception and the law

probably been asked a million times

TV installed in house , NO set top or freeview boxes and no Arial.

computer at other end of room linked by HDMI cable

XBMC installed on computer , as well as films it will stream UK freeview channels WITH A DELAY

my view is that this is not LIVE broadcasts , is a licence required?

Best answers:

• correct , speel chucker let that thru ,
  I blame the yanks
• Thats live TV with a slight delay .
  To be honest i don't believe that scenario is covered in anything on the licence site .
  But if the content is coming live to the PC and then sent onwards it will be classed as live .
• You have equipment that is receiving live TV? You need a licence. How you view it and when is not relevant if you receive it from a live feed and view or store it.
• however there is a delay , I cannot find any legislation to state what is live and what is classed as a "catchup"
  is it 1 second , 1 minute , 1 hour ? this is not stated in law
• just pay it like everyone else, of course it's live
  the pc running costs will be more than the licence fee.
• All satellite TV has "a slight delay" - about a second for the signal to reach the satellite 24,000 miles away and be transmitted back. So you can't use that as an excuse not to pay.
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• however , can I refer you to the fact that several pre recorded sections (continuous) are often shown on youtube channel, eg: last year goodwood , the programme was still being transmitted whilst that was being shown , so by logic of the bbc , anyone watching this on a tablet in the street could be stopped and asked for proof of licence (name/address)
• you obviously did not read what I posted , the feeds were from youtube , they had recorded them and sent them out with a delay , whilst the day long programme was still in action. the BBC , seem to say that the programme must be ended to be called catchup.
  so in essence , youtube must have been sending out (according to the BBC) live feeds
  however the company TVCatchup , had a long court case and lost , regarding the rights to delay (and went bust) see https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3480796/...?ref_=tt_dt_dt
  ref https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyrig...tents_Act_1988
• If the XBMC is using the iplayer or other broadcast live feeds then it needs a TVL.
  If you have set you box to somehow delay the feed then it will be buffering/recording a live feed and needs a TVL.
• the feeds do not come via iplayer or a UK sorse , the program logs onto "notfilmsuk" this is not a uk website
• If you don't want to buy a licence, then don't. No one is going to catch you. If you believe you don't need a licence then that is fine. Giving others false impression of what is legal may jeopardise them if they were ever visited by TV Licensing goon and admitted to just that.
• Legally if you watch TV live, and that "live" includes essential delays brought about by the transmission method* you need a licence.
  If you're watching streaming of Live UK TV via a third countries website that is still included.
  *For example Iplayer Live streams will have a delay due to encoding and latency, digital TV always has a delay due to the encoding, satellite has a delay due to the encoding and distance travelled (pretty much all TV these days is slightly delayed due to things like encoding and distribution methods).
• ok that seems a sensible answer , without going off tangent
  thank you
• When asked, TVL cite a 2 hour delay as defining the difference between Live broadcast and Catch-up.
  Like any arbitrary rule, there will be anomalies, like the Youtube example, and the situation where a programme is repeated in the live stream, whilst the original showing remains available on iPlayer.
  The OP's scenario needs a licence, I would have thought. It's not hard to view only via catch-up, though, and if the OP's priority is to avoid needing a licence, I would suggest that they do that.