02
Jan
2018
A question about : Martin's Money Poser
Here's this week's poser.
Whats missing from this?
00110001 00110100 00110001 00110011
00110100 00110010 00110100 00110000
00110010 00110001 00111000 00110001
00110011 00110110 00110010 00110011
00110001 00110101 00110100 00110001
00110111 00110001 00111001
That's all!
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WE NOW HAVE A WINNER!
This poser has now been solved. So as not to ruin it for you I won't give the answer here, but if you read through others answers - you'll get to it - eventually. It was a toughy.
Best answers:
- 00111010
I dont have a clue really its just a guess LOL - Not sure what the answer is, but if you take the numbers as binary and convert them to decimal you get:
49 52 49 51
52 50 52 48
50 49 56 49
51 54 50 51
49 53 52 49
55 49 57
Not sure if this is along the right lines, or if it'll help anyone else. - If they were ASCII characters, you'd have
1413
4240
2181
3623
1541
739
Doesn't mean a lot to me though - 'Black and white'? Anything to do with piano keys?
- Ok, maybe I'm right - or maybe I'm making a complete "twonk" of myself, but here goes.......
My guess is 00101100
Why?
Converting binary to decimal and adding each line up you get;
00110001 00110100 00110001 00110011 = 49+52+49+51 = 201
00110100 00110010 00110100 00110000 = 52+50+52+48 = 202
00110010 00110001 00111000 00110001 = 50+49+56+49 = 204
00110011 00110110 00110010 00110011 = 51+54+50+51 = 206
00110001 00110101 00110100 00110001 = 49+53+52+49 = 203
It would seem that "205" is missing.
The last line 00110111 00110001 00111001 = 55+49+57 = 161
so, 205 - 161 = 44. 44 in binary is: 00101100
If I'm right - I claim my prize (was there a prize?)
If I'm wrong....... well what a sad git I am..... spending an hour trying to work this out at this time of night!! ...."Yes dear.... I'll be up in a moment.....just finishing off some important work!!"
Alan. - Sorry but no ones near it yet.... and the prize for this one is a whole bucket full of sheer glory
- If you convert from binary to decimal, then use the numbers to select the keys counting from the left on a standard 88 key piano keyboard then you get the following key sequence:
A, C, A, B, C, A#, C, G#, A#, A, E, A, B, D, A#, B, A, C#, C, A, D#, A, F
When you play this it becomes immediately apparent what's missing - any sort of tune whatsoever! Do I win a prize?
p.s. Since I have no musical talent whatsoever this is based on my extensive research using the Internet for nearly 15 minutes! Doubtless I shall be corrected by someone with a piano.
p.p.s. Alternatively you could break the binary numbers into 1s and 0s, then convert them into black dots for 1s and white for 0s, and display them in the order shown in the question. If you do this it becomes apparent that what is missing is any sort of picture! -
Well I may be just a pathetic newbie....
and this may be a very pathetic answer....
but if you want something that is a simple as "black and white"....
I'm gonna say the "SPACE" between the 16th & 17th set of binary numbers is the missing item!
please forward my whole bucket full of sheer glory to the normal address! - Now you've got me wasting time this morning..........!!!
Right - THIS TIME my guess is 00100110
Do I have to explain again?
Ok, same thinking, but....
Converting binary to HEX and adding each line up you get;
00110001 00110100 00110001 00110011 = 31+34+31+33 = 129
00110100 00110010 00110100 00110000 = 34+32+34+30 = 130
00110010 00110001 00111000 00110001 = 32+31+38+31 = 132
00110011 00110110 00110010 00110011 = 33+36+32+33 = 134
00110001 00110101 00110100 00110001 = 31+35+34+31 = 131
Trah, la, la.... it would seem that "133" is missing this time.
The last line 00110111 00110001 00111001 = 37+31+39 = 107
so, 133 - 107 = 26. 26 in HEX is: 00100110
So do I get a "bucket of glory", or should I just put a bucket on my head and shut-up?!
Alan. - How about
01001100010011
? - When you get it you'll KNOW its right. Look back through the past posers for clues - this one reminds me (its very different, but a similar type of complexity to this one. In many ways I think you'll be better starting with a 'guess of the answer' and seeing if you can make it work, rather than starting with the question and trying to find an answer
(not sure if i've just helped or hindered) - black and white...something to do with barcodes?
- On a completely different and unrelated note, this is how to spell money saving expert:
01101101 01101111 01101110 01100101 01111001 01110011 01100001 01110110 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01100101 01111000 01110000 01100101 01110010 01110100
I think it's like pi, but completely different. That would fit, because burnt pie is kinda black and white - I'm not all the way there but maybe this will help someone - let me know!
The series as presented lends itself to 6 rows of dotted decimals or 4 bites of 8 bit data i.e. an IP Address e.g. www.xxx.yyy.zzz
So to start the IPs for martins sites are:
69.10.152.196 for the main site
209.97.205.2 for the forums
Hmm so changing the numbers to decimal (frm Alarso)
00110001 00110100 00110001 00110011 = 49 + 52 + 49 + 51 = 201
00110100 00110010 00110100 00110000 = 52 + 50 + 52 + 48 = 202
00110010 00110001 00111000 00110001 = 50 + 49 + 56 + 49 = 204
00110011 00110110 00110010 00110011 = 51 + 54 + 50 + 51 = 206
00110001 00110101 00110100 00110001 = 49 + 53 + 52 + 49 = 203
00110111 00110001 00111001 = 55 + 49 + 57 = 161
-- -- -- --
And adding vertial collumns we get 306 307 316
But these are too high - 256 being the highest 8 bit figure for an IP
SO again using Alarso's Hex addition but vertically:
00110001 00110100 00110001 00110011 = 31 + 34 + 31 + 33 = 129
00110100 00110010 00110100 00110000 = 34 + 32 + 34 + 30 = 130
00110010 00110001 00111000 00110001 = 32 + 31 + 38 + 31 = 132
00110011 00110110 00110010 00110011 = 33 + 36 + 32 + 33 = 134
00110001 00110101 00110100 00110001 = 31 + 35 + 34 + 31 = 131
00110111 00110001 00111001 = 37 + 31 + 39 = 107
-- -- -- --
And adding vertial collumns we get 198 199 208 158+
Now these numbers look nothing like the ones for Martin's sites - so are they sites at all?
I put 198.199.208.158 into an IP fingering tool and the address is not registered to a host.
I than added the missing figure, in fact I tried all of them from 31 - 39 (decimal hex conversions of the binanry number that are already given in the pattern) No joy for any of them.
SO I put it to others out there - any furthern ideas or expansion along the lines of dotted decimal values that might be IP addresses linked to Martin.
I haven't tried the following IP address formats yet:
* "dword" - meaning double word, consisting of two binary "words" of 16 bits; but expressed in decimal (base 10);
* "octal", meaning it's expressed in base 8; and
* "hexadecimal" hexa=6 + deci=10 (base 16).
Hope that helps,
Nik. - Based on the clue of black and white the 1's in the binary represent black and the 0's white now somehow this is supposed to make something maybe a word though i haven't figured it out yet.....
- Okay...
If you draw all the 1's as black dots, and ignore the 0's, you get a series of 4 boxes, with 2 parallel lines in each and a varying pattern on the right..
If you now overlay all of these onto one, you get something that looks like this:
11 111
11 11
11 111
11 111
11 111
11 111
11 111
So, therefore, I believe the answer is that the missing thing... is that last 1 that's missing on the second row in the very last column
J - I'm not sure that the layout (4*6) is important - in the email Martin just put it all in one long line.
And just to be picky , 255 (not 256) is the highest value for an 8-bit byte (i.e. binary 11111111)
Does juno know something about this? Where does "how to spell money saving expert" come from? - Some light relief is called for here :
There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't !
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