a new gas fire

A question about : a new gas fire

Has anyone got any recommendations for a decent gas fire.

Needs to be a good price and able to warm a decent sized living room.

Not sure what more I should be looking for really ?

Anyone who has fitted one and thinks it is a good buy ?

Best answers:

• Do you already have a gas supply to the room?
• Yeah ..The old fire was condemned and presently a little electric fire is in place ..But it is now apparent the old one threw out much more heat ..That is what we are looking for
• Not very money saving as you lose most of the heat they produce.
• There are still the old fashioned gas fires which kick out 5-6 kw of heat such as the Flavel Misermatic. The downside is they look old fashioned.
  Anything with a living flame will be more for looks than warmth.
  An alternative for high output is a gas stove, but you will need to ensure your flue is compatible.
• The flavel misermatic is the kind of thing that has been taken out and I have no problems putting the same type in.
  The room looks kind of like what is going on behind the fire in the photo.
  When you talk about flu's
  I think it is just a normal chimney behind the fire at the moment.
• When I was looking for one, B&Q had the output of each on their website. As Daveyjp said, the ones with flames are least efficient.
• Robinson Willey Firecharm for a coal effect one which includes a convecting heat exchanger that makes it a decent room warmer. I know as I have one.
  For a bog standard gas fire with radiants look at the RW Firegem Visa 2. Its not bad value.
  I hate decorative fuel and live fuel effect fires as they give out no heat and waste all your money. The Firecharm is not one of those by the way.
• If you are after a good hot fire and don't mind what it looks like, then you cannot go wrong with any of the Robinson Willey outset gas fires.
  From the Cheap and Cheerful Visa, to the top end Firecharm or Sahara LFE, they are High efficiency, good heat output ( which is not hyped up ) and have been around for years. They are also one of the only brands that make that type of fire, still using heat exchangers on them, which do heat your room better.
  Word of note re Flavel. They do not work the same way as the old Flavel fires did ( i.e when set on 2, the 2 middle chalks were on, the outside ones off.) They are all now lit right across, so you do lose that ' misermatic' effect that you used to have.
  Robinson Willey and Valor work in the old way, so you have great controllability and can leave it on 1 when you go to bed and the 2 middle chalks are 1/2 lit. At least you know that the light hasn't gone out.
  Not nice looking fires, but if you are after heat, you cannot go wrong and cheap to run too.
• Ignore these posts about flame effect gas fires being inefficient and being about looks rather than heat - that's only if you buy the wrong one!
  You can get high efficiency flame effect fires that looks good, put out 4kw+ and have efficiencies of 90%. The only down side is that to get top efficiency you need a glass front, but they still look miles better than the old radiant fires.
  This sort of thing - 4kw, 89% efficient:
  https://www.valor.co.uk/product_detai...trus/index.htm
• Thank you all for your advice .
  I like the flame effect behind glass.
  and have sent links on to my mother who needs the replacement.I like the Petrus full depth looks kind of old fashioned but in a nice way ..Like a china tea pot.
  I shall keep you informed or ask for more advice once she has seen had a look.
• OK .
  I have had a reply and she likes the Valor Petrus
  In true MSE fashion I have found one on ebay pretty cheap
  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VALOR-PETR...item259f142e2d
  Just a few questions . she will phone the gas fitter too but the I can't see where the gas connects to the fire ?
  At the moment her old decommissioned fire connects with a pipe on the left hand side.
  Is the location of the present pipe going to be an expensive or deal breaking problem?
  Also it is just a case of slotting this fire into to fireplace .. with some kind of clips I assume ??
• That's only a 3.5 kw output fire. check the output of the electric heater as it could be 3kw, if it is and doesn't heat the room this gas fire will be no better.
  A fitter will generally do a survey first to advise which fires are suitable. Don't buy it first.
• OK I will check the electric fire KW
  It says on the website it is 4KW max fire .
  https://www.valor.co.uk/product_detai...trus/index.htm
  Or is the ebay one different ?
• Before you buy a fire you need to check what type of flue you've got and the depth of the firebox, that will determine why type of fire you can have.
  As for the one on EBay, you need to confirm the model number. Valor do it a full depth version at 4kw and a slimline version at 3kw.
  Personally I wouldn't rush to buy one yet, find out what type of flue you've got, that the back panel is suitable then look around. There's lots of manufacturers selling high efficiency fires.
• I've got the Valor Petrus in a precast flue. I didn't realise it was old fashioned although mine is the chrome version, so maybe that makes a difference.
  I find it chucks out plenty of heat.
• Thanks for all the advice ..stopped me getting my fingers burned
  I have found it here :
  https://www.thegassuperstore.co.uk/va...e-05961e1.html
  It looks like Ј429 with the 5% discount applied
  If anyone can see the full depth one cheaper I would be extremely happy
  We had the gas fitter round to check and he says the old fireplace is fine and the fire will fit and he can route the pipe under the floorboards.