01 Jul 2019

A question about : Underpaid after raise, advice very much wanted and appreciated

Hello there,

I've already made a post regarding my situation, which had some almost immediate response, but I'd love to get an experts advice (offical expert/advice, no offense anyone).

I cannot post links unfortunately, so I've quoted my original post. I have another thread with the exact same name if you want to have a look. It's under employment training and jobseeking.

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Originally Posted by LETSPOINT
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Hello everyone,

First time poster, been reading MSE over the years though, generally found my answer here. Unfortunately I have a strange one (i think) which i cant seem to find an answer to.

About two years ago I was on 16,000 on a 40 hr week (35 minus lunch). Last year I got a promotion and a raise to 17,500. Unofficially My hours went to 48 (44 minus lunch) as i went on shift work 4 12hr days then 4 days off. Today I'm doing 5 days a week 8am to 6pm.

I got a letter saying my title and pay has been changed, but also stated that other than this the terms of my existing contract remain unchanged. So should I not be on 17,500 on a 35hr week? Rather than 17,500 on a 45hr week?

Here are my workings out, please dont laugh too much;
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A) Ј8.79 35HRS @ 16,000 PA (40 hrs minus 5 hrs lunch)
B) Ј6.83 45HRS @ 16,000 PA (50 hrs minus 5 hrs lunch)
C) Ј9.61 35HRS @ 17,500 PA (40 hrs minus 5 hrs lunch)
D) Ј7.47 45HRS @ 17,500 PA (50 hrs minus 5 hrs lunch)

worked out
Annual income / 52 weeks / hours per week
16000 / 52 / 45 = 6.83
17500 / 52 / 45 = 7.47
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At the moment I am on (D) but before my raise I was on (A).
I've actually had a pay cut havent I? Should I be on (C)?
If I'm entitled to 17,500 for 35hrs a week, but I've had an increase in hours to 45 a week, should my annual income be 22,487? And hourly rate at Ј9.61?

Could someone burst my bubble? Im thinking its too good to be true. This has eluded my for over a year now, I feel quite stupid. However if my working out is correct, how much am I owed?

Also should my annual income include my unapaid lunch hour, ie 50hrs but only getting paid for 45hrs. Could this have an affect on my hourly rate and annual income?

Thank you all very much in advance

P.s: I actually do an hours overtime everyday so it would be 50 hrs, but ill stick to basic pay as im already confused.

Thank you in advance

Best answers:

  • Are you salaried or paid hourly?
    I am salaried but with "standard" hours in my contract but like most managers I get nothing for any extra I do. If this is the case then looking at it hourly is not really a worthwhile exercise.
    Here is a link to your other thread so others can see the existing responses:
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=4338269
  • In that case I would certainly raise an issues with your HR team to clarify your working hours and that this does in effect look like a pay decrease. Have you discussed with your line manager?
  • I certainly think it is worth raising with them regardless - if they chew you out then perhaps it's not the place for you. I'd rather move on after a fall out than let my employer tread all over me - especially when it comes to pay (which is the only reason we go to work if you ask me!).
    Good luck - if you want help wording your email/letter then come back and I am sure we can offer some help.
  • If your contract says you are on a basic 35 hour week, then that is what you are employed to do.
    What does your contract say about working more than this? Is it expected, and if so, with or without additional pay?
    On what grounds are additional hours expected to be worked if any? e.g. it is common, especially where additional payment is to be paid, to require additional working to be approved in advance by your employer. If this is the case with you, do you have the prior approval for the additional hours worked.
    Why don't you just work the hours you are contractually obliged to work if not requested to do more?
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