CSA Please can anyone advise

A question about : CSA Please can anyone advise

Hi

Husband has daughter who is 14 and we have 2 sons. we have to pay Ј239.00 under the csa1 as of now following a 4 year nil assessment. After the birth of our first son.

I have not disclosed my income so they based it my husband alone. I was told by them I need to be earning less Ј250.00 a month then I am now in order for it to return to a nil balance.

Now we rent a 2 bed place with the boys sharing in order to save to buy a house. However ex wife is on housing benefit child has her own bedroom. I am shocked to learn that none of her benefits will be affects by this new amount.

So I am thinking, if we were to up our rent by Ј200.00 a month in order to have a 3 bed (boys have their own bedrooms) house would this bring the assessment back to a NIL balance.

I really need an opinion on this as I am not getting the answer from the csa.....

Thanks

Vic

Best answers:

• why do u think he shouldn't pay? it's your oh daughter he should want to pay
• no his daughter does not get the money her mother does and if you knew her 239.00 aint going to be spent on the daugther.
  yes if the money was in clothing and food vouchers of course she can have money.
  do i spend 239 on my sons a month yeah right.
• Why do you think it's not acceptable for a fourteen year old to have their own bedroom rather than share with a parent ? Would you want a level playing field -and you and your partner share a bedroom with your children too ?
  If you choose not to spend Ј118 on each of your children to support them that is your decision -although if you calculated what your living costs would be without them -eg 1 bedroom flat not 2 bed-no childcare, no clothes/school dinners/toys/cost of furniture/extra heating/treats and so on you might be surprised.
  As for "if the money was in food and clothing vouchers -of course she can have the money" Hate to burst your bubble but she's going to get it anyway -your opinion doesn't count-it's what your boyfriend is legally obligated to pay to support HIS child . Even though as you refer to a nil assessment for the last four years it seems you are implying this man paid NOTHING to support his child for the last four years.......and you're moaning that now he has to pay ?????? Sheesh !
  I really don't understand why women like you get so screwed up over child support-it's not like you didn't know there was a child involved before you got with this man so you knew he'd need to support them .
  I really feel for kids lumbered with having to put up with resentful new partners when they visit their NRP -it can't be nice for them. Still never mind OP statistically as your new partner has one broken family behind him he's more likely to have another-and if he does at least you know you'll get support for your children with him
  It appears you have fudged the figures by not declaring the full household income (your earnings) and think keeping a child costs less than Ј62 per week -and claim to spend less than Ј31 per week per child on your own children's support (assuming the Ј239 you are quoting is per month and not per week-you aren't clear on this point).
  So what EXACTLY are you moaning about ????
• I would imagine she is moaning because they are struggling to pay it. As a pwc and nrpp and can see both sides. Even when my partner and his ex are in dispute over whatever!!! the children are always made to feel welcome and always told especially when their mother has tried to drag them into it that it is not their worry its just silly adult arguements. All that matters when they visit is that they enjoy themselves. You cant really judge everyone on your experiences and I would imagine from you reaction unfortunately you have not had an easy time x
• my point is it should be, thats why csa is there, people should want to pay not think about getting a bigger house so they dont have to pay!!!! op seems 2 think cause she doesent give her boys what Ј30 odd pound each a week there missing out, she seems to forget they cost money 2feed cloth gas electric water roof over there head bet thay get far more than measly Ј30 a week.
• I think I can understand OP's logic.
  If the view is that the PWC is on benefits and basically having everything paid for by the state then why should the NRP pay towards things like putting a roof over their head when that cost is already covered by the state. Especially when the NRP and NRPP are not financially well off.
  At least that's what I think OP thinks but I could be completely wrong.
  OP I'm guessing your husband is on CSA1. I don't really understand how this sytem works. If your husband was on CSA2 he would need to pay 15% of his net salary to his ex. Do you know whether the 15% would be more or less than the Ј239 he's being asked to pay now? I'm getting the impression that the Ј239 equates to more than 15% of his net salary and that is why it's a bitter pill to be swallowed. I can understand that. Unfortunately the other posters are also right that your husband should be financially responsible for his first child.
• Now lets see. Mother works 16 hrs a week and recieves working tax credit/income support/ housing benefit. All of which are unaffected by csa payments.
  So you mention housing costs what exactly are you referring to. Up keep of the property ummmm no she is social housing tenant. Wife is able to work 5 days a week as child leaves the house at 7 in the morning and returns at 5. But works just over 2. HER CHOICE
  How lucky to be able to spend the rest of the week smoking and watching day time tv and why because SHE CAN
  I work 30 hours a week leaving my mother to bring up my 19 month old as we cannot afford extreme nursery costs.
  How niave to think that every mother in recepit of CSA uses the money responsibly, I don,t think so.
  So if the burden of tax payers is relieved by using making the payments GREAT. But thats not the case, but if I can rent a bigger house which would enable my sons to have their own bedrooms and the CSA payments stop bring it on.....
  Perhaps the mother would like to earn money and work a full week as opposed to the tax payer picking her smoking tab
  Daughter has her own room, my sons share. Thats because we have to privately rent WHY because we both work.
  GETTING THE PICTURE
  So lets see where the money goes shall we.
• I completely agree with you... I would be looking for ways to reduce my payments as well that being the case...!
  What i don't think other understand is that YOU have to look out for YOUR kids, and not hers...! If you and your kids went without to pay her money when she is in that situation i am sure i would be pi**ed as well...!
  Check into it more before you jump in and rent a bigger place though, it may be that you are moved onto a different CSA payment scheme and that would then screw you anyway, as it is worked out on income rather than costs...
  Just my opinion.
• Yes because all mothers when their husbands cheat and move in with the other woman turn from paragons of virtue into single mother, sofa slumping, chain smoking monsters and the other woman is transformed from girl about town sleeping with whoever into resentful but hardworking saint .
  Give me strength ! Can we talk DM stereotypes here or what ?
  I've never heard such rubbish.
  If the mother the OP is talking about has only one fourteen year old she'll be on JSA and job seeking -yet the OP proudly tells us they were on zero assessment for the last four years and thinks Ј60 a week is a huge and unfair amount for the father to pay to support his child -despite not paying a penny for the last four years-and the new partner now wants a posher house to try and avoid supporting the child at all. I'm not sure the accusations of f-ecklessness are getting thrown in the right direction here.
  EDIT I see the mother works and is not on JSA -obviously the OP thinks WTC and CTC are immoral and doesn't claim them herself.
• oh and why im at it, nil payment for 4years why was u on benefit, maybe 2 busy chain smoking and watching jk ay lol
• And out come all the complainers....!!!
  The OP's ex works the bare minimum, while the NRP and the NRPP both work and yet they have kids that have to share a bedroom...??? WHile the PWC gets it all paid for....??? Does that sound fair...???
  I would as the NRPP expect my children to at least have the same lifestyle as the ex's child, and if that is selfish then so be it...!
  The NRPP is looking out for the interest of HER children, and that is not something to be ashamed of...!!! Doesn't matter if it is the same father as the ex's or not, her children are her priority...!!!
• Isn't it funny that claiming CTC and WTC is classed as being her right... Yet when a man "hides behind a zero assessment" it is so wrong...
  Are these not what laws and benefits are put into place for....???
  What is good for the goose and all that... How dare all you self righteous aresholes slate someone for doing something to better the lives of her children and then complain when the tables are turned on you...!!!